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Does Defensive Herding require the Carnivore to be larger in Population as well as Body Size, and are the two summed?

The designer confirmed Defensive Herding is an extra layer on top of Body Size, compared separately, and the later print changed the wording to Population only.

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  • Evolution rulebook · Rulebook · Trait Cards

Yes, both. The attacker still needs more Body Size, as for any attack, and Defensive Herding adds a separate requirement of more Population. The two are compared one at a time, not added together. Pack Hunting only adds Population to the Body Size comparison, so it does not meet the Population requirement. Later prints word the card as Population only, but the normal Body Size rule still applies. Intelligence can discard a card to negate Defensive Herding.

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